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• Febo

  

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  Other thing is, that Ukraine had nuclear weapons, and when they gave it up, Russia and many other countries signed they will do all what is in their forces to keep whole Ukraine independant. I am sure all that signed that agreement are still alive, it happened 20 years ago.

  Reality is you should not believe noone. Only reason why most world politicians say about Crimea as they do is since they are afraid same thing might happen to their country. But they will do nothing about it. They will just keep saying Russia broke rules. If Ukraine will want to get Crimea back will have to do it on their own and that will not happen. World will not do anything about it except say it was not good idea and they will say they are against it. But when will come to trade, no one will reduce it. All will just find ways to break embargos that will be set.

  Posted on September 6, 2014 at 10:23 AM
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• Tintin

  

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  Going a little of topic here, but I have the same idea.

  i really dream about time, when all world become one country and all people beome one nation - just humans

  In a future world with only one country, one currency, one language. By that time we will no longer have 'big wars' but will still have terorist attacks of religius fundamentalists and violent robberies. Violence will never* be banned from this world, but big wars may be stopped.

  *Never is a big word, I mean at least for a few hundred years.

  Posted on September 14, 2014 at 1:58 PM
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  @tintin Going a little of topic here, but I have the same idea.

  i really dream about time, when all world become one country and all people beome one nation - just humans

  In a future world with only one country, one currency, one language. By that time we will no longer have 'big wars' but will still have terorist attacks of religius fundamentalists and violent robberies. Violence will never* be banned from this world, but big wars may be stopped.

  *Never is a big word, I mean at least for a few hundred years.

  Total decentralisation and self-determination might be a better idea. Ideas emerging and competing to suit the desires of the individual rather than an imposed one-size-fits-all system that might not work out to everyone's liking in the long run.

  Posted on September 14, 2014 at 2:20 PM
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  Centralised institutional systems are formed on a foundational idea, in recent times the seed for the idea was the belief in the power of the human mind, reason - science, philosophy and the political could be used to improve human life in a constantly improving process.

  There is a big problem with that thought and it ultimately boils down the word belief. The word of God, and the holy men that have access to divine truths, are replaced with high masters in science (and the political). Great minds interpret the data for us lower order types and put the scientific truths to good use.

  In short, we get the scientific ideas of socialism, nations built on evidence that there is a master race and to my mind the most mediocre of them all liberal democracies.

  No thank you lol

  Posted on September 14, 2014 at 2:45 PM
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• wildjo

  

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  @wildjo Ukraine is neither my fight nor my government's. You are 10,000 miles away and perfectly capable of handling your own internal affairs.

  When my government gets involved in situations like this, it isn't to protect your interests, it's to protect theirs. And, stuff usually ends up blown up and worse locally than it was to begin with.

  I'm sure Yanokovych and Putin aren't saints, but this problem wouldn't have likely evolved into the mess it has been had the US not intervened.

  Just my opinion.

  if you live in a 10,000 km with a fright taking chyuto side? it's not you tote! Right think Russia is going to rob a nearby? So why Ukraine can not ask for help from the strong? do not you talk like that and it would be sitting on the couch for 10000km.

  The US should not be the world's police force, particularly in a region where we already made commitments to keep out in many ways. Moreover, the US should never be involved in overthrowing a democratically elected leader. I'm not saying they such leaders should never be removed, but that's a job exclusively for the people of Ukraine. The more Ukraine relies on the US, the more problems it will have. The US isn't concerned about the people of Ukraine. My government is concerned about energy and military strategy and infrastructure.

  Posted on September 17, 2014 at 6:40 AM
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