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adonai

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Hey guys. I know, here talking people from all world. I am very interested in every opinion about Ukrainian-Russian conflict which started after Maydan ends.

I will be grateful to u, if u write here:

1. From which country u are;
2. What show and tell media in your country about situation;
3. What u really think going on in Ukraine?
4. What u really think going on in Russia?
5. How u think can be finished this conflict?

PS. Please, be correct in your words, we should make opinion exchange useful and objective.

Posted on September 1, 2014 at 10:57 AM

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• elchupacabra

  

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  Short answer is, hopefully the winter will stop the conflict. The conflict is in no-ones real interest. But, unfortunately for Ukraine, do not think that is realistic that Russia will retract from the Crimea. I think that Sevastopol is the military port that Russia uses for ships. Everyone knew that, too bad it ended up with conflict and such high extent of life destruction. War is bleep

  EDIT: I am not Ukrainian or Russian, neither i'm emotionally closer to one more than the other. It would be fair to say that i'm emotionally close to both, that is especially why i hate how things are happening. I'm pacifist that tries to be realistic.

  Come to think of it, i beg people here on forum from both sides to try to calm down their emotions. The minority that has particular interest from the conflict are either corrupted politicians or war profiters. Please, do not play their game!

  Posted on September 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM
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• Cryptonaut

  

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  theres a lot of Ukrainians and Russians on the forums here as well, I would be interested in hearing their sides

  Posted on September 1, 2014 at 2:59 PM
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• Febo

  

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  From which country u are; Slovenia

  What show and tell media in your country about situation; Well clasical west Europe style. We like laws, but since that would get us less income, we would love to find other ways.

  What u really think going on in Ukraine? That Ukrainian part is with Mixed population, is same on Croatia and Bosnia, that is close to Slovenia. Politicians then fucked all up same as ddi in Ukraine few moths ago, now things are not in their hands anymore and they cant stop what they started anymore. Like they did not actually go to school and learn anything or just dont really care.

  What u really think going on in Russia? Is Putin, Funny thing is most of Ukraine Russians dont like Putin at all. In Russia, now after Olympic games and after finding enemy outside their border lots of people loves Putin. But with time it will change.

  How u think can be finished this conflict? Sadly will not that fast There will be lots of dead people and lots of ethnical cleaning of territory. It is to late, politicians played with it for to long an now even if they want they cant do anything anymore.

  I can tell form where i live, Europe will not do a shit. It is divided, north east part would help Ukraine, Other part dont care and would just do what brings them more money. Well anything will give it less, so what will take use least of our future profit.

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 5:00 AM
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• page

  

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  I am from the UK. Here the media hate Russia (that is not what I think though)

  What politicians are best at is ruining people's lives, causing economic collapse and starting wars.

  It seems the work is done for causing misery in the West and now the politicians of the West have turned their eyes to the East and are going to do their best to try and collapse Eastern economies too!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6wxrbnCwg

  EDIT: On a more serious note - This is all about trying to stop global influence and power moving from the West to the East. If a war is needed to stop it that is what will likely happen, maybe not now, but sometime in the future.

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 5:42 AM
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• Wedring

  

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  As long as we think that we are Russians, Ukrainians, Americans or whatever there will be wars, distraction, misery and poverty.

  Are you belong to any nation? Why? Do you kill for the silly flag of your country or some crazy idea?

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 5:59 AM
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• adonai

  

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  @wedring As long as we think that we are Russians, Ukrainians, Americans or whatever there will be wars, distraction, misery and poverty.

  Are you belong to any nation? Why? Do you kill for the silly flag of your country or some crazy idea?

  it's very difficult problem - problem of identification. people cant be ust humans, most of all need (or think that they need) identificate themself with nation. i can't seriously say that i belong to any nation, but what should i do if i see like people who belong to one nation try to destroy micro-world of other people, who belong to another nation?

  i really dream about time, when all world become one country and all people beome one nation - just humans

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 6:32 AM
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• wildjo

  

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  I live in the USA.

  Mainstream media here spouts the Obama administration's line that Putin is the aggressor.

  I believe that the US bears responsibility for helping to unseat the democratically elected former President of Ukraine and breaking the promise of the 1980s that NATO would not move closer to Soviet Union/Russia.

  Now, the US uses Ukraine to fearmonger and juice and justify the military-industrial complex.

  When it gets cold, Ukraine will have no choice but to reconsider key relationship with Russia. No way US can supply fuel. US has no business in Ukraine and Russia has many historical and geopolitical reasons to be involved in Ukraine. Ultimately, Ukraine and Russia will kiss and make up. The sooner Ukraine spurns the US and reaches out to Russia, the better, in my opinion.

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM
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• Bernhard

  

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  I was watching it over quite a time. I just hope the conflict will not escalate and lead us into world war 3 when russia meet nato

  Posted on September 4, 2014 at 11:24 AM
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• Buyer80

  

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  @wildjo I live in the USA.

  Mainstream media here spouts the Obama administration's line that Putin is the aggressor.

  I believe that the US bears responsibility for helping to unseat the democratically elected former President of Ukraine and breaking the promise of the 1980s that NATO would not move closer to Soviet Union/Russia.

  Now, the US uses Ukraine to fearmonger and juice and justify the military-industrial complex.

  When it gets cold, Ukraine will have no choice but to reconsider key relationship with Russia. No way US can supply fuel. US has no business in Ukraine and Russia has many historical and geopolitical reasons to be involved in Ukraine. Ultimately, Ukraine and Russia will kiss and make up. The sooner Ukraine spurns the US and reaches out to Russia, the better, in my opinion.

  Do you think all this is acceptable after that Russia did? You'd kissed and hugged a thief who climbed to your house robbed and murdered relatives? We have removed the thief in power, we have the right - we chose it, we did and cleaned. Return to the friendship with Russia will not be!

  Posted on September 5, 2014 at 10:17 PM
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• wildjo

  

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  Ukraine is neither my fight nor my government's. You are 10,000 miles away and perfectly capable of handling your own internal affairs.

  When my government gets involved in situations like this, it isn't to protect your interests, it's to protect theirs. And, stuff usually ends up blown up and worse locally than it was to begin with.

  I'm sure Yanokovych and Putin aren't saints, but this problem wouldn't have likely evolved into the mess it has been had the US not intervened.

  Just my opinion.

  Posted on September 6, 2014 at 6:07 AM
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