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  • skorek

    @adam

    This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth – nothing more.

    Reading the thread about telling friends about bitcoin etc, it seems to me the problem is context. People do not understand the basics and so do not see the reason to learn the specifics. I'm interested in thinking through what some sort of packaged, paced "red pill" CD, Episode-set or introduction would be worthwhile - I think again we would want to target commuters since they're more likely to sit through it if it's well produced.

    We've never been good at that, what pieces of data are important to people who have no clue? What words shut off listeners, I would argue things like "Liberty" is one such and most of the libertarian claimed concepts are.

    I'm a big fan of perceptual marketing, you tailor the message for the audience so as to fill in the blanks in their understanding and make it trivial for them to do the final dot-connecting themselves within their own head.

    What do you think?

    It's like internet with just a small little difference, has no smell, you can't touch it, you can't see it, you can't taste it but they are only 21 milion of them. No more.

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  • lainfinity

    How about offering the real Red Pill? Will it be technically feasible to offer LTBcoin faucet to the listeners who would like to give it a go?

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  • ProtoTech

    @crimsonroze

    @bitshaun I think explaining Bitcoin to first-timers has two big “don't s”: (1)anything political (libertarian, the Fed, criticisms of the dollar, problems with banks) and (2)mining

    I strongly disagree about mining. I have had absolutely zero issues with talking to strangers about mining and the key here is to introduce the various concepts in the right order.

    NEVER start with mining as a distribution mechanism, ALWAYS start with mining as a security review of requested transactions. People always agree that there should be some security feature that reviews all requested transactions and confirms that they are not cheating.

    And I want to stress the "requested" part here. Reviewing past transactions has no value for people if they don't trust the mechanism in which new transactions comes in.

    That said, the details of proof-of-work (hashing, nounces etc) is not relevant to newcomers, the only thing that matters is that it A) makes bitcoin secure and B) actually works.

    I agree. I often talk about mining when I first introduce people to bitcoin, but it has to be explained in the right way. A simple statement about transaction verification is usually sufficient for a new person, and if they have further questions I will gladly answer them.

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  • Rob

    Everyone I know who has a bit of interest in Bitcoin is shocked when I tell them they don't have to buy a whole Bitcoin. While hardly the big picture, this fact that someone can go to their local Bitcoin ATM (and many people may actually have a local BTC ATM in the coming year) and buy $1's worth of Bitcoin could be helpful in getting people to dip their toes in.

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  • mckmuze

    @rotalumis It's funny how I've managed to avoid this thread for so long because I somehow thought it was about an episode I hadn't caught up with yet.

    I've been writing the first blog post for Crypto for Change about this very topic: getting people hooked on crypto. It's in draft, so here's a sneak preview.

    In order to reach the masses and get them hooked on Bitcoin and crypto, we need to talk to them in terms they can understand and relate to. Maybe we need to shift the focus away from the technology as a marvel in itself, towards its world-changing practical applications. It is obvious that people take a much deeper interest in something they think will help them achieve their own goals. It is one of those obvious things we tend to forget about.

    Instead, we crypto-advocates all too often sound like the hardware store sales guy who keeps going on about the wonderful lawnmower they received this week, when you live in an apartment block and just need some fittings to hang a shelf.

    People already have their passions, their wants, their needs, their fires. Instead of trying to get them to care about cryptocurrencies, maybe we need to pour a little crypto-scented oil onto those fires and make them burn hotter.

    This is the idea behind the Crypto for Change blog that I am starting on the Let's Talk Bitcoin Network. My aim is to reach out to people who want to make change happen and show them how they can use crypto-related technologies to achieve their goals.

    I agree with the stoke the fires analogy. People tend to get annoyed impatient or rude when they don't really care about anything other than what they personally do or are interested in.

    I have also noticed that explaining bitcoin 90% of the time turns into explaining how money works in general. Many people are still not aware of what "fiat" means nor that we use such a system. Also, many people are shocked that our financial system is not backed by gold. Surprising how many think it still is.

    I personally seem to run into different communication barriers depending on who I'm speaking to. An older person, I have noticed, needs me to focus on historical comparisons like Aristotle's theory of sound money. I follow this with explaining how bitcoin could have been done on a chalkboard in that era. I like to explain how you must publicly do some kind of mathematical work that increases in difficulty before you're allowed to distribute any more currency. Instead of doing it based on personal financial reasons. So essentially bitcoin is the only currency that uses a proof of work model.

    This also leads to the intrinsic value conversation, the gold backed conversation, and then the financial collapse conversation, followed by the gold and silver is the only real money conversation. This conversational progress is like clockwork most of the time. Its and interesting social experiment. 90% of people say the exact same things depending on how old they are.

    I have been doing bitcoin consulting and training for a couple years now. I think its really interesting how much you learn about a person after a short conversation about the underlying principles of blockchain style currencies.

    Needless to say these conversations are vital when thinking of the psychology behind people and new information retention. Bitcoin tends to turn into a re education session, I think that is why it is so difficult. Many people feel like you're challenging their intelligence if you say the wrong thing or say something in the wrong way.

    I also noticed that depending on what income bracket a person is in you have to be careful what you say. People in a higher income bracket need to hear about the crowdfunding and asset side of things, middle income people need a sharp to the point delivery of information because they are usually career focused, lower income people need the pep talk about crowdfunding and how they can actually get funding for any viable business venture without a bank saying no, older generations need the historical aspect of things with the intrinsic value talk, and young people need to be told to calm down and keep their day job because this is all experimental and won't happen overnight.

    These are of course over generalizations but this is what I have noticed during my time as a consultant. This is also from within the US. Outside the US most people are a lot easier to explain things to. I have spoke to people in financially oppressive countries and dictatorships and they seem to instantly say, "Everyone is going to want a bitcoin! How do I get one?" This is usually after a short conversation about the security, the scarcity/divisibility, the accessibility for anyone with a mobile phone or internet connection, and the interesting storage solutions like paper wallets, brain wallets, book/magazine wallets and multi signature addresses.

    I would love to hear more and share more. Proper deliverance for learning about these technologies is vital.

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  • cryptoMatic

    I can't even tell you in words how awesome it would be to get someone with a really captivating voice like Laurence Fishburne or Morgan Freeman to do a 'see how far the rabbit hole goes' segment that basically summarizes a lot of key problems/scenarios Bitcoin protects against. Maybe people would actually listen to them explain what Bitcoin is.

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  • therealtwig

    @mckmuze

    @rotalumis

    *In order to reach the masses and get them hooked on Bitcoin and crypto, we need to talk to them in terms they can understand and relate to.

    I also noticed that depending on what income bracket a person is in you have to be careful what you say. People in a higher income bracket need to hear about the crowdfunding and asset side of things, middle income people need a sharp to the point delivery of information because they are usually career focused, lower income people need the pep talk about crowdfunding and how they can actually get funding for any viable business venture without a bank saying no, older generations need the historical aspect of things with the intrinsic value talk, and young people need to be told to calm down and keep their day job because this is all experimental and won't happen overnight.

    I couldn't possibly like this series of posts more. I live in the Midwest, and in a highly educated college community. There are no Bitcoin meetups, no local streams of information, and little desire for education about its merits. And I cannot blame anyone. The field is jargon rich and not easily accessible. Plus, many times good meaning questions in the community can be met with "LOL you don't don't know how to BIP38 R0fl". I know this was what I was met with on communities like r/bitcoin in my early days. Not indicative of the entire community, just some who when posting anonymously do not realize how much they can turn off others. And I was an eager learner. Imagine someone casually trying to find out information on their own and getting completely turned off.

    I feel I have a unique perspective as an educator, especially a mathematics educator, that the only way to teach is to really reach out to the hearts and minds of others. The majority of my time preparing for teaching is not spent rooted in mathematical theory, but instead in painstakingly finding a series of hooks that actually get students to care. Many of my students could care less about the elegance of Calculus, but they sure do understand epsilon-delta limit proofs because I compare them to winning the Range Game from the Price is Right. Each hook depends completely on the student too. If you have never seen the Price is Right, you would never get my hook. And I know the WORST thing I can do is to make a student feel stupid about their failures...eg..."R0fl U don't know Riemann sums!!!...N00b!"

    You totally struck a chord with me @mckmuze with these wonderful comments.

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  • mckmuze

    @therealtwig

    @mckmuze

    @rotalumis

    *In order to reach the masses and get them hooked on Bitcoin and crypto, we need to talk to them in terms they can understand and relate to.

    I also noticed that depending on what income bracket a person is in you have to be careful what you say. People in a higher income bracket need to hear about the crowdfunding and asset side of things, middle income people need a sharp to the point delivery of information because they are usually career focused, lower income people need the pep talk about crowdfunding and how they can actually get funding for any viable business venture without a bank saying no, older generations need the historical aspect of things with the intrinsic value talk, and young people need to be told to calm down and keep their day job because this is all experimental and won't happen overnight.

    I couldn't possibly like this series of posts more. I live in the Midwest, and in a highly educated college community. There are no Bitcoin meetups, no local streams of information, and little desire for education about its merits. And I cannot blame anyone. The field is jargon rich and not easily accessible. Plus, many times good meaning questions in the community can be met with "LOL you don't don't know how to BIP38 R0fl". I know this was what I was met with on communities like r/bitcoin in my early days. Not indicative of the entire community, just some who when posting anonymously do not realize how much they can turn off others. And I was an eager learner. Imagine someone casually trying to find out information on their own and getting completely turned off.

    I feel I have a unique perspective as an educator, especially a mathematics educator, that the only way to teach is to really reach out to the hearts and minds of others. The majority of my time preparing for teaching is not spent rooted in mathematical theory, but instead in painstakingly finding a series of hooks that actually get students to care. Many of my students could care less about the elegance of Calculus, but they sure do understand epsilon-delta limit proofs because I compare them to winning the Range Game from the Price is Right. Each hook depends completely on the student too. If you have never seen the Price is Right, you would never get my hook. And I know the WORST thing I can do is to make a student feel stupid about their failures...eg..."R0fl U don't know Riemann sums!!!...N00b!"

    You totally struck a chord with me @mckmuze with these wonderful comments.

    Im sure personalized education as you know full well is a near impossible option, but you more than most understand and I'm sure attempt to achieve it as best as possible. I think for the LTB show it could be achieved by some form of LTBcoin incentivized surveys that would pay a specific counterparty token based on the answers given and provide the appropriate version of the show for the age or income of the individual. Might be a ways out for being feasible but Adams token based access to the site may achieve this in a very effective manner. We would need anyone with extensive consulting experience to provide input and feedback from past sessions with different people. I personally will provide as much data as I can from my experiences if this is a direction everyone would like to go.

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  • skorek

    @skorek

    @adam

    This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth – nothing more.

    Reading the thread about telling friends about bitcoin etc, it seems to me the problem is context. People do not understand the basics and so do not see the reason to learn the specifics. I'm interested in thinking through what some sort of packaged, paced "red pill" CD, Episode-set or introduction would be worthwhile - I think again we would want to target commuters since they're more likely to sit through it if it's well produced.

    We've never been good at that, what pieces of data are important to people who have no clue? What words shut off listeners, I would argue things like "Liberty" is one such and most of the libertarian claimed concepts are.

    I'm a big fan of perceptual marketing, you tailor the message for the audience so as to fill in the blanks in their understanding and make it trivial for them to do the final dot-connecting themselves within their own head.

    What do you think?

    It's like internet with just a small little difference, has no smell, you can't touch it, you can't see it, you can't taste it but they are only 21 milion of them. No more.

    Then end of the World as we know it.

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  • skorek

    "I’d like to ask you to remember where you were a decade or so ago, in the year 2000. I’m going to list some of the things that have happened since then. Did it cross your mind that we would see…

    • Two stock market crashes of 1929 proportions and a financial crisis that almost brought down the entire global banking system.

    • Youth unemployment in Greece at 62.5%, Spain at 57%, Portugal at 43%, Italy at 40% and an EU average of 24.4%. Or the Greeks calling Germans Nazis.

    • Interest rates in the US at 0.25% and in the UK at 0.5% for years on end, runs on banks as people discover their money isn’t safe and the Bank of England actually printing money.

    • A gap between rich and poor that has grown so big the richest 400 people in the world have assets equivalent to the poorest 140 million. The wealthiest 1% of Americans pocket a quarter of the country’s income and control as much as half of the nation’s total wealth, with CEOs of large banks and other large corporations earning as much as a thousand times more than low-ranking employees.

    • The average age of the first-time UK house buyer at almost 40, with an entire generation of people in the UK that believing they will never own a home. Yet only 2.5% of British land is actually built on. • Obesity rates of 25% in the developed world, yet almost a billion people suffering from chronic undernourishment, while over half the food we produce – some 2 billion tonnes – gets thrown away each year.

    • 36 million people across the globe taking part in 3,000 protests against a war in the Middle East – and UK and US government ignoring them and going ahead with it anyway.

    • Healthcare spending more than doubling from £68 billion to £143 billion in the 11 years to 2011, yet ‘basic clinical failings’ being commonplace across the NHS – with one NHS trust found liable for 1,200 people dying while in its care and a further five trusts facing investigation.

    • Spending on schools in the UK rising by over 86%, while the Ofsted chief inspector declares ‘standards have stalled’.

    • And debt. Oh, my goodness. The UK currently owes, excluding bank bail-out costs, just under £1.4 trillion. That’s almost £45,000 per working person. In just five years the coalition government, on a so-called austerity drive, will add £1.700 billion to the national debt. That’s more than the combined total of every British government of the past 100 years.

    For all the talk of ‘fiscal cliffs’ and ‘debt ceilings’ in the US, President Barack Obama has overseen an administration that, in its first term, increased the national debt by 60%, adding $6 trillion. The first 41 presidents only managed $5 trillion combined.

    Many of these things were unthinkable ten years ago, yet they are now part of our daily experience. A lot seems to be going wrong. Is this just an inevitable fact of life, or is it something else? I happen to think it’s something else. And that’s what this book is about. Many of our most fundamental institutions, social arrangements, economic policies and political ideas seem to be breaking down. They are either in acute crisis, or close to it. Things that we have taken for granted for decades – that a bank is a safe place to put money, that the NHS looks after its patients, or that European countries have left the conflicts of the Second World War behind them, for example – are now in doubt. If we are coming to some sort of boiling point, it’s essential to understand what the fundamental problems actually are and how they came about, otherwise there is the real danger that, misguidedly, we replace what we have with something worse – as happened with Fidel Castro’s great Cuban revolution, Communist Russia and Nazi Germany. ‘Only a crisis – actual or perceived,’ said economist Milton Friedman, ‘produces real change. When that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. That, I believe, is our basic function: to develop alternatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes the politically inevitable.

    I subscribe to George Orwell’s view that, ‘on the whole human beings want to be good, but not too good, and not quite all the time.’ The problem, as I see it, is not so much individuals but systems. Accidentally or otherwise, our systems of government, finance and economics have been modified and manipulated and now no longer have the effects their originators intended; they have become entrenched, out of anyone’s control, and seemingly possible to change or remove. It feels like the West is an unstoppable train, hurtling down the tracks; but we are on the wrong tracks, going to the wrong place. Nothing seems to slow this train, let alone reverse it. It’s too big; it’s going too fast."

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