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• Cryptonaut

  

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  @pooktwo Damn... So they are working you guys now huh? I figured it was a random spammer as its never BTC related, except that damn stellar spammer......

  No idea lol and yeah, those stellar spammers are kind of bizarre

  Posted on February 10, 2015 at 9:32 AM
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• adam

  

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  I'll let you know if I have to delete a bunch in the morning

  Posted on February 10, 2015 at 10:42 AM
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• adam

  

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  Had to clean out five this morning which is about the same as yesterday morning, also the spam is posted like 20 minutes apart so I suspect it is being made by hand.

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 2:57 AM
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• pooktwo

  

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  @adam Had to clean out five this morning which is about the same as yesterday morning, also the spam is posted like 20 minutes apart so I suspect it is being made by hand.

  Wow, someone actually is creating spam by hand lol. Thats just sad :(

  I noticed them to a little bit ago. 5 a day I guess ain't to bad, I just hope it doesnt turn into a complete nightmare for you guys when LTBC goes to the moon and there is 100,000 active users on LTB :D

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:00 AM
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• adam

  

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  @pooktwo

  @adam Had to clean out five this morning which is about the same as yesterday morning, also the spam is posted like 20 minutes apart so I suspect it is being made by hand.

  Wow, someone actually is creating spam by hand lol. Thats just sad :(

  I noticed them to a little bit ago. 5 a day I guess ain't to bad, I just hope it doesnt turn into a complete nightmare for you guys when LTBC goes to the moon and there is 100,000 active users on LTB :D

  I really think there is no way around making it simply cost to make posts on the forums whether a new thread or writing a response.

  I imagine a system quite like the submission credit system, instead of making a transaction for every post you would load up your account by pre-paying for a bunch of credits, which would then tick down as you make posts on the forums.

  Funds collected in that way could be redistributed to everybody who made posts on the forums weekly or monthly and you'd earn a share for each post you make that is not deleted or flagged as spam. This means if you post spam you have to pay for it and you don't earn a share for it. If you post something real, you have to pay for it but you earn a share for it so at the end of each period we should have...

  (FEE x Total Posts) / (Fee x Total Shares)

  So assuming a 100 LTBc fee and 100 posts in the time period, 90 of which are not spam you'd have a per post cost of 100LTBc (deducted from prepaid credits) but at the end of the period you would recieve back %111 of the value invested. The higher the % of spam, the better the payout for those who are not spammers.

  The downside here is we have to get everybody using value tokens, but it's not that bad actually. We could accept LTBCOIN but also small amounts of Bitcoin to accomplish the same purpose. And everybody, regardless of paying, can read and private message users.

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:26 AM
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• adam

  

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  Hmm! Maybe a LIKE should become the act of transferring one of your posting credits to that person, which means that when they post the funds returned them are all gain since they were reimbursed by the person who liked their post, and can even make a net gain just from making a post that draws likes.

  It also gives a tangible cost to likes since they are a resource that must be purchased normally, and it gives more utility to the posting credits.

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:32 AM
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• pooktwo

  

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  @adam You guys have so many cool ideas and projects that you are working on. I think that is a fantastic idea to control spam and benefit those that do not create spam.

  Its all the features I know you guys are working on that makes it hard for me to use all my LTBC for advertising right now as I know that 100 satoshis is not a fair price for LTBC, it will be worth much more one day.

  Keep it up and I cannot wait until we start contributing features to this community :D

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:32 AM
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• adam

  

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  @pooktwo @adam You guys have so many cool ideas and projects that you are working on. I think that is a fantastic idea to control spam and benefit those that do not create spam.

  Its all the features I know you guys are working on that makes it hard for me to use all my LTBC for advertising right now as I know that 100 satoshis is not a fair price for LTBC, it will be worth much more one day.

  Keep it up and I cannot wait until we start contributing features to this community :D

  Act in your best interest man, that's what I'm doing ;)

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:34 AM
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• pooktwo

  

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  @adam

  @pooktwo @adam You guys have so many cool ideas and projects that you are working on. I think that is a fantastic idea to control spam and benefit those that do not create spam.

  Its all the features I know you guys are working on that makes it hard for me to use all my LTBC for advertising right now as I know that 100 satoshis is not a fair price for LTBC, it will be worth much more one day.

  Keep it up and I cannot wait until we start contributing features to this community :D

  Act in your best interest man, that's what I'm doing ;)

  Trust me, LTB and the features are so in my best interest right now. Imagine if we didn't have the asset distributor tomorrow, we now pay out 260 people, it would be a nightmare :O

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 3:36 AM
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• Cryptonaut

  

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  @adam Had to clean out five this morning which is about the same as yesterday morning, also the spam is posted like 20 minutes apart so I suspect it is being made by hand.

  god damn, starting to think it has to be one of those chinese spammer sweatshops or something... looks like they have changed tactics and are not using accounts flagged on that stopforumspam site, or maybe they are just trying a bunch of accounts until one works? Im going to try changing it so instead of just outright blocking them, it will let them in but flag them as a troll / shadow banned account. Also thinking of making it so you cant make any posts until your account is at least an hour old or something. Seems like the solution at the moment is to make it as much of a pain in the ass as possible to create and post with several accounts

  The post credits idea is interesting, but I think at that point we might as well just have a general account registration fee (even if its like the Address Manager page where its just "send us something, anything!"). Should have roughly the same effect in regards to spam etc. and is less confusing for people :p Also the PoP system kind of does the same thing as what you are describing, except I guess the main thing is there isn't that upfront cost. i.e when a post is downvoted or buried by a mod as spam it negatively effects your PoP score and thus raises the weekly rewards of everybody else. But then again the spam accounts lately aren't ones which are opting into rewards program and trying to farm LTBC..

  tl;dr going to try a few more things again to make it more frustrating for them and see what happens

  Posted on February 11, 2015 at 8:44 AM
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