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  • rubenalexander

    +1 for basing it on $0.01. It is an easier psychological bridge to cross.

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  • mmanvil74

    I was assuming that whatever the total number of coins, there would be several decimal places to enable fractions.  Has anyone put any thought into the benefits of providing decimal places instead of/in addition to a higher number of total coins?  
    Should we consider just two decimal places to make it more like the dollars and cents people are accustomed to?  I think the 8 decimal places with Bitcoin throws off a lot of newbies and if you are dealing with a large number it can be a hassle to type in four or five digits on both sides of the decimal...

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  • adam

    With Counterparty we only have the option of Divisible (8 decimals) or not divisible (no decimals) 
    But in practice I think it is useful to have decimals, nobody even thinks about them until the value is such that you would want them so I don't see a tangible downside to having them whereas it would be annoying to have the cheapest possible tx be $10 because a LTBcoin isn't divisible and we've been more successful than anticipated.

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  • adam

    mmanvil74 said: I think one idea would be to base the initial number of coins on a "visionary goal" of total market cap for LTBcoin at the end of the five years. For example, if we as participants determine the goal for LTBcoin total market cap to be worth $100 Million in 5 years (or $50 Million if that seems more realistic) then we could maintain a sort of visionary goal that one day, if our goal is reached, one LTBcoin will be worth $1 US Dollar. If we achieve that goal, not only are early holders of the coins rewarded exceptionally, but it makes the coin fairly easy to use at that point - a 2 LTB tip = $2. If we plant this idea in the minds of the contributors, we might just get there (whether it takes 5 years or 10 years who knows).

    Of course we have no idea if that market cap valuation will ever be achieved but it seems like a lofty yet reasonable goal to shoot for ($50 Million) which is roughly the market cap of a small scale startup. Adam will have to determine what number he thinks is more realistic but I think the goal of 1 LTB = $1 in 5 years could be considered an important milestone, yet long term enough so it wouldn't amount to an obsession or damage the intentions of the network. So my vote is 50 Million LTBCoin.

    At one time it might have seemed ridiculous that one Bitcoin would ever be worth $1.00 but now look at it...

    I really like this approach and think its the right way to do it.  I had considered making the asset callable (which is to say, at a set date and set price we could buy them back from holders wherever they were) but believe it's very important to be as confident as possible with such an endeavor.   50 million isn't a far off valuation, I believe TWIT is a 200 million company?

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  • adam

    Ok, I tweaked the spreadsheet to reflect a final money supply of 50 million units.  I actually like the progression quite a bit, although the first month we'll be issuing nearly three quarters of a million per week!
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoPQ9D7Ob3GDdE44c29WdTlkcTVzRm1UMkp0RFp5VEE&usp=sharing

    Each week the distribution is 99% (1% deflation) of the week before until the second year at which point it becomes 98% (2% deflation)...
    Year 3 is 97% per week (3% deflation)Year 4 is 96% per week (4% deflation)Year 5 is 95% per week (5% deflation)

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  • mazzaneo

    A high number promotes tipping and a low number encourages saving. It's all a part of the scarcity mentality and the perception of a 1000 coin tip is always going to seem better than a .001 tip. At the end of the day it all depends on how you want the coin to be used.

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  • Iron

    I think of this more like community loyalty program than a cryptocurrency. Companies have been running customer loyalty programs for years. I suggest taking your cues from them. It feels a lot better to say "I have 100,000 frequent flyer miles" than "I have 10 SouthwestCoin". Likewise, tipping someone 1000 coins feels better than .001 coins, even if their value is equivalent.

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  • adam

    So how do we feel about 1USD = 1000LTB as an initial distribution?

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  • Omnio

    Why don't you use a number with meaning? Ever heard of numerology? The very number you choose can affect the overall success of your coin. 42 coin has the idea right, but I'm not suggesting that small amount. How about something based out of the Fibonacci sequence?

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  • adam

    What important numbers are there in content?  I'm a big big douglas adams fan, 42 million might be a good number but as you mentioned 42coin already exists.
    I'm not a big numbers-as-significance guy so open to any good ideas

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