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This is a video that talks about the rise of Nazi Germany with overlayed images of the USA. However, this is not a video about Nazi German or the USA, it's a video about human nature and our belief systems.

Do you love your country? Do you observe the word of God? Do you follow the laws of the land? If you answered yes to any of those questions would you do the same thing if you were born in to a different country with a different religion and laws?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okPnDZ1Txlo

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  • kennycud

    Great video!

    I like to ask people ... If you were born in 1900 Germany ... What year would you have moved out and why? I was born and raised in the USA. I probably won't grow old here.

    Liberty Classroom & Free Domain Radio have perspectives on history, economics and philosophy that challenge everything in the public schools. They have free materials. They also support and accept Bitcoin.

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  • cmason

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    Great topic. I don't know if you have ever read the criticism of the western education system by John Taylor Gatto. This is someone who won teacher of the year awards for several years, yet he completely demolishes the system with his critiques.

    I also don't know if you have seen the movie "The Book Thief", but one of the most chilling and frightening scenes in the movie is where you see schoolchildren, dressed in Nazi uniforms, reciting a national anthem explicitly targeting Jews.

    You are asking a very important question. Why do we believe certain things, and wouldn't we believe different things if we were born somewhere else? This is a very dangerous and potentially explosive question when applied practically.

    I sometimes ask people if they believe in the Divine Right of Kings. In other words, do you believe that a blood relative of a King or Queen has the right to assume power over a country. Everyone says no. So I then ask if they believe that the location of someone's birth should have any bearing on their rights or where they should be allowed to live. Many still say no, though some get a bit defensive. So I finish up by asking why I, a white man born in Canada, has any more right to live in this country than anyone else? Do I have a birthright? I am usually greeted by an awkward silence.

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    @cmason

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    Great topic. I don't know if you have ever read the criticism of the western education system by John Taylor Gatto. This is someone who won teacher of the year awards for several years, yet he completely demolishes the system with his critiques.

    I have heard people mention John Taylor Gatto several times, I am aware of his videos on youtube too, but all my information about him comes second-hand. The guy who made the video has a series about John Taylor Gatto.

    I also don't know if you have seen the movie "The Book Thief", but one of the most chilling and frightening scenes in the movie is where you see schoolchildren, dressed in Nazi uniforms, reciting a national anthem explicitly targeting Jews.

    I'll have to watch the film, I haven't seen it.

    You are asking a very important question. Why do we believe certain things, and wouldn't we believe different things if we were born somewhere else? This is a very dangerous and potentially explosive question when applied practically.

    That is the question I am asking. But, if we can be born in to different circumstance and hold entirely different values, then it brings in to question the very validity of human beliefs themselves. I believe taken to its conclusion, the answer is a path to a free, acting being. A state not subject to ideals, morals, codes, norms etc which instruct one how to think and impel action from that thought. It takes legitimacy away from people whose power seems derived from those ideas and makes clear where the only justification for power is - the free acting individual.

    Of course the ideas are potentially dangerous, but that is only if people are willing to accept the ideas in the first place, and there doesn't seem to be much evidence for that, either now, or in past times. Most people happily subjugate themselves for a higher cause and are unwilling, or unable to view the world as it really is.

    Humans like to conform and keep in step. I don't see that changing any time soon.

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  • kennycud

    Humans don't necessarily like to conform. Humans have to conform; children conform to whatever their parents want and adults conform to whatever their governments want. This conformity is essential to survive. Since everyone is constantly conforming to survive, humans habitually conform even when their survival is not at stake.

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    @kennycud Humans don't necessarily like to conform. Humans have to conform; children conform to whatever their parents want and adults conform to whatever their governments want. This conformity is essential to survive. Since everyone is constantly conforming to survive, humans habitually conform even when their survival is not at stake.

    You can say humans are social animals and that is good in the most part. But, I am saying making a principle out of conformity is where problems start when you put conformity before your own ends i.e. fighting for your country.

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  • Hesham_3del

    The answer to your question in the title is "Yes".

    Because simply there is a quote "I know I'm a quote addict, I confess" by Jet Li I guess saying that the teacher is only a guider for us, he may be right and may not, then it comes for ourselves to seek the truth.

    I admit that we have been schooled to stupidity and it was meant to, the "system" wants this.

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  • kennycud

    Conforming to a standard that is open to competition is the path to prosperity. Conforming to a standard that is not open to competition is the the path to destruction. Bitcoin is open to competition. The government is not.

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    @kennycud Conforming to a standard that is open to competition is the path to prosperity. Conforming to a standard that is not open to competition is the the path to destruction. Bitcoin is open to competition. The government is not.

    I agree with that, but I am suggesting that humans have a spectrum of characteristics and values that are being suppressed by belief systems. You can view these belief systems as a top down system that imposes values on the individual rather than a bottom up system.

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    @hesham3del

    I admit that we have been schooled to stupidity and it was meant to, the "system" wants this.

    Yes, and I think it's not some evil plot by the people in power because I think they live in the same system, I am saying it's the system itself that is the problem. It stops people being able to see beyond the system - the nation, religion, racism, what is right or wrong etc.

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  • valcoyn

    I'm confused to be agree or disagree.

    Pro :

    • school is the way to get proper education with the curriculum which is very great and made by a professional
    • school is the way to get many skills and friends
    • school is the gate of success

    Cons :

    • bad environment and bad farmer makes bad crop, same as like school these days.
    • the doctrine and negative campaign from gov made "schooled child" become as dumb as unschooled ppl
    • complex curriculum without great teacher is nothing

    so, who can lighten me up about this???

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