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  • Kimberly

    I needed $75 worth to get to the next even bitcoin amount in my wallet, but then said screw it and bought double. This is about as low as it goes. Wish I could buy more.

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  • eshriek

    I expect it will go lower, but I will buy nonetheless. I think it is the calm before the storm. BTC-E says $412.42. Happy to see it go either way. Interesting times!

    Why is it dropping? I can only guess, Lawsky's Bitliicense? Merchants exchanging into fiat asap? Bitcoin has been overvalued since Mt. Gox? Those are the suggestions I've heard (mostly from ltb podcasts:)

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  • eshriek

    Ethereum sale took up 30000 BTC. May have played a psychological role in the downward drift of bitcoin. 30000 BTC is about 1/4 of a percent of total coins (I think). I doubt that would have a substanial or lasting impact. Could it have played a small part though?

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  • Halo

    @jayek I think it's low because of the growing adoption by larger entities and corporations. It's great to see companies like Overstock accepting coin, but do they hold them? Or do they dump large swaths of coins on exchanges for fiat and drive the price down. I wouldn't be surprised to see it much lower before it goes well beyond $1000.

    I think overstock holds a small percentage but the majority of merchants dump coins immediately upon receiving them for fiat. Actually, coinbase/bitpay dump them for the merchant on exchanges and send the fiat to the merchant.

    It's a double edged sword. More merchants help Bitcoin gain credibility and acceptance but drives the price down which makes it appear more risky.

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  • DJ

    Markets decline (and eventually bottom) not because of bears, but because of tired bulls.

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  • arief

    i hope price btc under $200 then up again to 1000$..

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  • Cryptonite

    I divide 2014 into 3 eras:

    1) The Dogecoin era. 2) The Darkcoin era. 3) The BitsharesX era.

    Each era is marked by an altcoin that achieves great notoriety largely due to the fact that that coin addresses the main concern the Bitcoin community has about Bitcoin at the time. The Dogecoin era was during a time when the community's main concern was with the horrible public image Bitcoin had developed, particularly in the wake of Silk Road and later the collapse of MtGox. During this period Bitcoin received a tremendous amount of press, but most of it was negative and fearful, and this poor PR was felt to be Bitcoin's greatest weakness. It was no wonder, then, that during this period an altcoin that was light, fluffy, harmless and happy-go-lucky -- everything the opposite of the deep dark sinister picture the mainstream media had of Bitcoin -- would emerge seemingly out of nowhere to become one of the most talked about altcoins of all time: Dogecoin.

    Sometime after the collapse of MtGox, the press figured Bitcoin was finished and forgot about it. However, institutional players were only more interested in Bitcoin. It was during this period that government regulation, Wall Street, and mainstream acceptance became the hot topics, and correspondingly a growing awareness that Bitcoin, contrary to being anonymous, was actually quite transparent and could actually be used as a means for surveillance by powerful institutions, regulators and governments. It was during this period -- which we have only recently exited -- that the community became convinced that Bitcoin's greatest weakness was its lack of strong anonymity. Thus Darkcoin ascended as the most hyped altcoin.

    With the release of the Bit License proposal the steam faded from the Darkcoin era's sails. The idea that Bitcoin could just go mainstream and make us all rich through Wall Street adoption lost appeal. Though concerns about Bitcoin's anonymity continue, these concerns have taken a back burner -- like concerns about Bitcoin's image before -- to other concerns. These concerns began over the summer when one of the mining pools achieved over 50% of the hashing power. The lack of action on the part of core devs on this issue gave the community the strong impression that Bitcoin was stagnate and incapable of evolving. Concerns that Bitcoin might itself be flawed -- particularly the consensus algorithm -- have grown tremendously, leaving us in the current era: the BitsharesX era. BitsharesX has rapidly rose to notoriety precisely because it has innovated a new consensus algorithm that many people think might be inherently superior to Bitcoin's. Right now we are in a period of grave doubt concerning whether Bitcoin itself is really the future.

    Each of these eras have been marked by fear, uncertainty, and doubt, driving the price downward. In short, the optimism that gave rise to the tremendous bubble at the end of 2013 was not sustainable, and inevitably had to be tempered with the long, drawn out, community introspection over whether Bitcoin is too good to be true, or whether it really is happening. Every doubt, every concern, must be turned over and collectively examined before there can be another bubble. It is like when you have an amazing insight -- that was the bubble of December 2013 -- but then pause and ask yourself, "wait a minute, is that really possible" and proceed to consider every doubt you possess until you are satisfied. 2014, thus far, has been our collective processing of every doubt we have, one after the other. Right now we are at the stage were we are doubting the protocol itself at a technical and economic level.

    When the doubting stops there will be a massive bubble reflecting a profound optimism, at which point the doubting will start all over again. The next time the issues spawning doubt will feel much larger and serious as the larger society really begins to grapple with the fact that this is happening.

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  • karasako

    I generally thing that the big players (whales) are 'moving' the price around. I agree that merchants' selling (via coinbase, bitpay, ++) drives the price low (by an extent). While adoption increases and bitcoin becomes more popular people join in; slowly and steadily but not enough to drive the price up quickly as most people expect.

    While the price is pushed down by merchants' selling, some big (financial) players that have already noticed bitcoin will see it as an opportunity to buy. Best case scenario more than one of those attempt to buy and compete on the prices. Now that will raise the price.

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  • soccruo

    If we will follow the trend of April 2013 crash, the value will drop about by 75%, this means that we are heading to 280-300$.

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  • NorthKid

    Not bad,

    This is time to buy some btc guys :D

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