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I've been wishing for a proper general Bitcoin job board, which anyone can post to and which LTB would also be able to use for its own jobs -- not sure if that's actually what Adam is proposing.
Right now, there are not many options to choose from. They range from the very basic http://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4bitcoins to https://coinality.com/ that looks like a good start but really not quite there, to http://bittask.com/ that's plagued with earn-free-bitcoin spam.
I think the LTB community would be a great platform for creating, jump-starting and promoting such a system. In the FIAT world, I used to use iFreelance when I was starting out, but they let the system degrade and, at least in the writing sphere, there aren't any quality jobs on there any more.
Anyway, we can discuss the mechanics in more detail if there's interest, but here are some key points:
Clients post jobs and state if they are offering a fixed bounty or want to receive price bids, plus some other options that will help filter the right jobs to the right people.Providers can post their profile, that includes their skills, description and portfolio of downloadable files/images.Jobs are classified into clear categories and eventually sub-categories.Providers can subscribe to get notifications for the categories that interest them.Providers send in their bids through the system.The Client establishes the length of the Bidding phase of the job posting, after which it goes into an Awarding phase, then "Working" and finally the job is marked as "Completed".Providers need to easily see if a job is still open for bids, or is in the Awarding phase, to avoid wasting time.When a job is completed, both parties leave a review and rate each other on a number of points. For example, Providers are rated on quality, value, punctuality and communication. Clients are rated on communication and speed of payment, and also have a tally of what percentage of their projects that attract bids are actually awarded (to discourage time-wasting). If a job is awarded to a Provider found by other means, it can be marked as such, but the Client's reputation is penalized for leaving open jobs that they are no longer interested in awarding. There also needs to be a mechanism to avoid spam and maintain a general quality of jobs (or at least move low-quality jobs to their own section). This could be a combination of paying to post a job and moderation. There's nothing worse than reading through a long and detailed job posting to find that the client is expecting a free article first to see "if we're a match".Thoughts?
mmanvil74 said:
To get back to the point of this post, I think content bounties will work best if the ideas are associated with a particular contributor, ACT, blog runner, show runner, or whatever we want to call the people that produce the actual content. Audience members can shout out ideas, but until a proposed idea has been picked up by a contributor, the idea probably doesn't need to have an asset created to identify it.
I agree with this, which would bring us back to having a voting/tipping system (rather than backing) at first, to make the best ideas rise to the top, at which point they get picked up by producers/creators. I also agree with the point Adam had made that votes don't cost anything, though at the same time I'm still not sure that it's a good idea to only let people with LTB have a say because that would discourage newcomers/occasional visitors from getting more involved.
Before we started tending towards a pure backing model, I was toying with some ideas that might solve Adam's concern by making voting actually cost some time/effort, and it was interesting to see a simple implementation of that in the "kudos" system on the new blog ( see: http://ltbcoin.com/ltbcoin-for-new-users ). I think we can improve on that, actually.
One of the things I was thinking of was that in order to upvote an idea, you would have to click a number of times (say 5) and that in order to discourage "me-too" votes as upvotes accumulate, you would gradually need to wait longer between clicks (or click more often) with some feedback that tells you when you can click again.
Applying that to the "kudos" implementation on the blog, every time you click, the circle would grow and then there's a delay (starting at say 1 second) until it gets darker or changes color which means you can click again. We would experiment with the delay to find the sweet spot between making votes take enough effort and discouraging voters.
Mike, I think this is what you're looking for regarding the difference between ACTs and blog runners/show runners:Adam said:
ACTS actually aren't responsible for long term engagement, that's the responsibility of show runners and blog schedulers. ACTS are responsible for creating short term engaging content that is validated by the audience to be picked up and included in a larger vehicle. It is the responsibility of the larger vehicle to create a cohesive narrative that delivers value as expected.
So one can imagine a Coindesk style blog that has the mandate to cover timely breaking news and analysis issues. Individual contributors just have to focus on delivering the type of narrative that fits with the style, analytical and somewhat neutral. AP Style basically, focused on the WHO, WHERE and WHAT rather than the WHY or HOW. It is the responsibility of the blog scheduler(s) to incentivize and acquire the content to deliver value via their vehicle. A vehicle lacking content has no value.
So, say you and I got together to start a show/blog. We'd be the blog schedulers/show runners doing the editorial/production/finding sponsors work, and sourcing our content from third parties (ACTs). Of course, you can get teams that want to do both the production and (part of?) the content creation, in which case they'll be both a show runner and an ACT.
I quite like the idea of the audience having a say in the specific content that's produced, so I think we ought to keep that for those ACTs that want to get a feel for their audience. Of course, ACTs and show runners / blog schedulers are also free to do their own thing too if they like.
The big thing that's been nagging me is that it might be unrealistic for most backers to expect any significant amount of revenue, if any at all, after the content creators have been compensated for their work. I'm actually worried that might kill the model when the first few gigs don't live up to that financial expectation and backers get disillusioned.
I don't have any experience with selling advertising or sponsorships, and much less in the crypto scene, so I might be completely wrong about this. However, my feeling is that sponsors will be lining up behind the top few outfits that give them the best return (which does not necessarily mean the most valuable or relevant content), leaving the rest with the scraps. That's pretty much what happens anyway and kind of defeats our scope of encouraging diverse content and perspectives.
Are we doing well in deviating from the original idea that backers just tip content they would like to see produced (in a by the people for the people fashion)? I still think there is scope for reward for backers, though that shouldn't be the general expectation and maybe the financial motive will backfire.
Thoughts?
EDIT: The most successful blogs/shows will by definition eventually outgrow their need for backing, which means the financial return backing model is probably more suited for providing the initial investment to jumpstart a blog or a show. I see it working in this case.
CryptoCoin said:
Apologies if this has already been asked. I did spend a few minutes searching the forums with no results.
Say BitcoinBilly writes a brilliant blog post and it gets picked up by one of the blogs on the network and Billy is compensated in LTBcoin, who then owns this copyrighted material?? (For the moment, let's assume all parties are under US jurisdiction.)- @CryptoCoin
@CryptoCoin, I would understand that BitcoinBilly still owns the copyright and grants LTB a non-exclusive license as per the second point in the OP. I'm a bit iffy about the "simultaneously" part of that point. It would be nice to have at least a couple of days of exclusivity if the content is being paid for by LTB.
@ltbcoin you're not late at all. We're still experimenting with test coins and getting ready for the release proper. And yes, LTBcoin will be issued on top of Counterparty.
Maybe Backer or Supporter is a better word than Curator for those who invest in an idea.
Before an idea dies, the original submitter or even anyone else can extend the deadline at a discount.
Also, ideas that have become very popular and attracted a lot of backing could be extended for free. The 30 days is a baseline and gets extended automatically as ideas gain more backing funds.
I’m a producer. Can I submit an idea that I intend to produce myself?
Yes. And you should to keep someone else from working on the same thing you are. But be aware that someone else may purchase the option to produce your idea.
If you submit an idea, you should have the right to claim the option to produce it without having to pay any fees. This will basically be the Kickstarter model for content. "Hey guys! I'm doing this. Will you back it?"
deweller said: But the minimum date can only be set once.
Someone asked to be able to set the date over and over in the Counterwallet bug thread. I don't see why they wouldn't implement that.
In the case of LTBCOINSEAT, I don't think it's an issue at all, since just like LTB needs to be trusted to honor the tokens, it can be trusted not to call them back on a whim.
@deweller The Counterparty network is live. Or do you mean Counterwallet? That should be going live tomorow April 6.
@ShonnyConstant
Have you seen the Bitcoin wiki http://en.bitcoin.it/ ? On the LTBcoin side, we're also starting http://wiki.ltbcoin.com/ which you might want to contribute to.
Having the content accessible as audio too is a great idea.
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