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  • Steven

    I would also like to know when the ideology of "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" was overturned. Making certain words criminal is stupid and will destroy free speech. Free speech is being replaced by STFU. The US Constitution does not need to evolve.

    I also want to know when "life is not fair" was overturned and replaced with "social justice"

    Does anyone think life is fair? To misquote the band THE PENCILNECKS, "imagine the line at Ethel Kennedy's womb" if you got to pick your parents. Right.

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  • pavelkleba

    I like constitutional monarchy, like in UK. #GodSaveQueen :)))

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  • noel57

    I am a great politician of my time.

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  • cmason

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    The only thing I think I disagree with is the idea that "might makes right". Obviously I agree that might or power may well force people to do things, and if this power is in place long enough, it may well inculcate certain cultural ideas, but I still think it lacks legitimacy. Otherwise we arrive in a situation where Nazi Germany could be considered the pinnacle of human achievement.

    Of course, the Nazis were big fans of Nietzsche, though I believe their interpretations were grotesque and I don't think Nietzsche's work should be tarnished by the association.

    As to your point about killing someone invading your house, this would not be murder, it would be self-defence. I think most people may well feel some guilt after doing so, but that doesn't mean they were not justified in taking that action, and I would argue that this would be a moral action. If I saw a man raping a woman and I had to take a crowbar to his head to stop him, I believe this would also be a moral action. As I said before, I'm not a pacifist and I'm not trying to take an absolute position on violence.

    However, you have got me. What basis do I have to claim that strength itself has less justification for legitimacy that any other power structure? I have none. Yet, though we live on a tiny planet, in a small galaxy, in the midst of a giant universe, I believe we are better than that. I believe in the value of human life, in compassion, and in a society that works and lives together in harmony not only with each other, but with our environment. I don't need any God to tell me this, I simply believe it is right. I have no more claim on this belief than any other, but I am still willing to say that those who disagree are wrong. That is my "will to power".

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    @cmason

    We pretty much agree as far as i can tell. I wouldn't call an action moral though and what I consider to be right I view as subjective and not universal, I think you agree with that.

    The only thing I think I disagree with is the idea that "might makes right".

    might makes right can also be viewed as justification for your actions as driven from the will - the will to power. The will is the force (might) that drives our actions always toward power.

    If you are interested here's a video by the same person who made that might makes right video, it's probably the reason why you saw the ad on that video, he is a Nietzschean.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVoCKLyt2uw

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  • XIII

    I don't really fit into any specific "political affiliation". I would have to say a mix between democrat and libertarian but I have a feeling a lot in this space are about the same. I think there is some good that can come from laws and government but the issue comes in when it gets to be too old. New laws are passed and only add to what is existing. Very rarely are laws removed so your liberties are slowly stripped away.

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    @xiii I don't really fit into any specific "political affiliation". I would have to say a mix between democrat and libertarian but I have a feeling a lot in this space are about the same. I think there is some good that can come from laws and government but the issue comes in when it gets to be too old. New laws are passed and only add to what is existing. Very rarely are laws removed so your liberties are slowly stripped away.

    Have you heard of The Machinery Of Freedom? It's the idea of producing law in the free-market - private law that suits your needs rather than one law imposed on everyone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o

    EDIT: You might like the ideas, maybe not, but it's there if you are interested.

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  • adonai

    maybe any anarchists here?)

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  • cmason

    @adonai maybe any anarchists here?)

    Probably, but not me. I have always been curious about Anarchists. They have some good ideas and principles, but their own ideology prevents them from organizing to defend themselves in the case of actually gaining power, as in the Spanish Civil War. Wars require a command structure and quick decisions, there is no time for meetings to reach voluntary consensus.

    If you object to these things in priciple, that's fine, but it means you will never gain sufficient power to establish the society you say you want. And in the implausible case that you somehow do, it will be quickly invaded and defeated.

    I see Anarchism as idealistic, but impractical.

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  • unwrittenjamaican

    Without a doubt, libertarian.

    @adonai maybe any anarchists here?)

    I don't think too many would be open to announcing that but I guess if you are an anarchist you don't really care too much anyway!

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