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  • heunland

    @adam

    @rtylersmith The LTBCARD or the ZAIFCARD? I didn't purchase any LTBCARDs because I could never catch the swapbots refills in time. With the ZAIFCARD release I bought 20 in the first hour (both because of unlimited availability and the discounted price). It is not because I preferred the ZAIFCARD, but I have been so frustrated by the lack of availability of cards, that I decided to make a statement and show my support for the new release process. I am a black level partner, so in the future most of my purchases will be through the partner store where I get 15% off. But they are already throttling the number of purchases you can make there, so high volume purchasers may have to overflow into the player store or beyond.

    Will the LTBCARD be offered in the Partner or Player stores?

    I was talking about the ZAIFCARD, I saw that purchase and wondered - Good to know!

    I imagine (but don't know) that SoG will split wholesale and retail inventory into two different bots so there would be two different official inventory amounts. How are they going to throttle purchases? I'd love to learn more about what the terms and practices around being a partner are, I would have gone for reseller level if I wasn't financing Tokenly lol.

    Keep in mind, you can buy second hand cards with your bots as well and could even issue your own redeemable bitcrystals style token that you pay to people when they trade in their cards and which they can then use as store credit with all your bots to exchange for whatever card(s) they want from your inventory, so it's not just official SoG vending machines you'll be able to acquire inventory from

    Sales for rare cards will be opened only to partner levels for a one month period and for limited quantities per card depending on partner level. Then afterwards player levels will get access to buy these cards in the premium store. I suppose prices in premium store will be higher than in partner store. I don´t know if offers in premium store will be for a limited time before sales will open to the public at large if any cards are still left to be sold. I assume some not so rare cards will be offered to the public without any restrictions or presales in partner/premium stores.

    Tokens for store credit on individual reseller bots sounds like an interesting concept I hadn´t considered before. I am not sure if that concept will catch on considering the volatility in the BCY price though. In any case it will be interesting to watch the economy around SoG develop!

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  • adam

    This stuff is so cool. Check this out:

    Instead of running a store, you could run a for-profit lending library. Members would buy a library card token that would have a face value of about half of the library cards purchase value, so if you paid $20 for a card you could rent cards worth up to $10 total. The library would have a bunch of swapbots set up that both sell and rent a particular card. You'd buy it as normal but to rent it you'd send the equivilent amount of your library card instead. You'd use the card and if you like it you'd go back to the swapbot and pay the price in bitcoin or bitcrystals or whatever and your library card would be sent back to you. If you don't want to buy it, you just send back the card and your library card would be sent back to you.

    You'd load up each cards bot with the library card tokens so anybody who doesn't have a library card but who has that limited edition card can sell it to the bot in exchange for the corresponding amount of library card. And if someone walks off without returning their card, that's okay too because they paid effectively double the value for it because the library card has a 50% face value in what it can rent.

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  • rtylersmith

    @ adam I've been trying to hold off contacting you until I had more to share, but I can tell you are super excited about this. I've got a stealth startup which is working on things like this. There is a lot we have in common with your tokenly project, but we are solely focused on the video game industry. We were not aware of EverdreamSoft or Spells of Genesis until their crowdsale because we have been heads down trying to help Ethereum get launched and test its platform. However, upon discovering their integration plans with the blockchain, I immediately connected with Shaban (yodark) and I've been collaborating with him. We plan on helping them implement some Ethereum smart contracts for things like tournaments and such.

    We need to talk, I think there is a lot of collaboration that could happen between our two groups. I'm sending you a PM.

    @adam This stuff is so cool. Check this out:

    Instead of running a store, you could run a for-profit lending library. Members would buy a library card token that would have a face value of about half of the library cards purchase value, so if you paid $20 for a card you could rent cards worth up to $10 total. The library would have a bunch of swapbots set up that both sell and rent a particular card. You'd buy it as normal but to rent it you'd send the equivilent amount of your library card instead. You'd use the card and if you like it you'd go back to the swapbot and pay the price in bitcoin or bitcrystals or whatever and your library card would be sent back to you. If you don't want to buy it, you just send back the card and your library card would be sent back to you.

    You'd load up each cards bot with the library card tokens so anybody who doesn't have a library card but who has that limited edition card can sell it to the bot in exchange for the corresponding amount of library card. And if someone walks off without returning their card, that's okay too because they paid effectively double the value for it because the library card has a 50% face value in what it can rent.

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  • kylerk

    Really impressed by all the new developments in Tokenly. Just setup my Tokenly Pocket in chrome and ran into one problem. I tried to encrypt it with a strong Lastpass generated wallet. Which means I have to copy and then paste from Lastpass. So I copy and past the password in, but now that tokenly is open, I want to copy and past something into the digital signature section, but I can't because if I click away from it, it closes and I have to put my password in.

    This means the only way that I can paste info into Tokenly pocket is to encrypt it with a fairly simple password that I can't type in. Which is just something I am not used to doing.

    Anyways, the whole token experience is so much smoother than the counterparty days! Amazing improvement.

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  • adam

    @kylerk Really impressed by all the new developments in Tokenly. Just setup my Tokenly Pocket in chrome and ran into one problem. I tried to encrypt it with a strong Lastpass generated wallet. Which means I have to copy and then paste from Lastpass. So I copy and past the password in, but now that tokenly is open, I want to copy and past something into the digital signature section, but I can't because if I click away from it, it closes and I have to put my password in.

    This means the only way that I can paste info into Tokenly pocket is to encrypt it with a fairly simple password that I can't type in. Which is just something I am not used to doing.

    Anyways, the whole token experience is so much smoother than the counterparty days! Amazing improvement.

    Hey Kyler, thanks for your comments - We really like the chrome extension format but that quirk of not being able to click anywhere on the browser without it closing does get annoying in certain situations.

    Happily, we've already thought about this a fair amount and wallet developer Joe Looney built a "Fund Development" app into the wallet itself and this is one of the features that can be expedited if the community supports it.

    Here's how this works.

    If you haven't installed Tokenly Pockets, it's free, fast, keys never leave your computer, is compatible with your existing 12 word Counterparty passphrase and works even when Counterwallet doesn't.

    With the wallet open, click the third tab (Apps) and select "Fund Development"

    Here's the item you're looking for.

    Joe is looking for about $100 worth of combined value to push this feature to the top of his implementation list.

    You can swap LTBCOIN, TOKENLY, Bitcoin or BITCRYSTALS (valued at 2 cents each) for POCKETCHANGE here

    There are several other items that can be expedited

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  • eshriek

    @rtylersmith I've been trying to hold off contacting you until I had more to share, but I can tell you are super excited about this. I've got a stealth startup which is working on things like this.

    Can you say when will your stealth project will go private or public?

    I'm sooo envious of your partner level. I hedged and stayed at player level. I'm wondering if anyone (@yodark ?) knows if it is possible to move from the player level to the partner level?

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  • heunland

    @eshriek

    I'm sooo envious of your partner level. I hedged and stayed at player level. I'm wondering if anyone (@yodark ?) knows if it is possible to move from the player level to the partner level?

    This is more a question for the Spells of Genesis forum - yes it has been mentioned that it will possible to gain temporary access to the partner store if you spend a certain amount of BCY buying cards or game items in a given timespan. Livetime partner status could only be gained during the token sale. The exact rules about how you can gain temporary partner status will be published in the near future I hope.

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  • kylerk

    Wow. That is really cool. I had a use for the Swap-bot. I got some pocketchange and sent it to the development fund that i wanted to support. Very cool.

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  • heunland

    I am happy to announce that the development fund for the Swapbots app, to:

    "Create an app within Tokenly Pockets to search public swapbots and swap tokens. To streamline the UI, Swaps to take place within Pockets without the need to go to the swapbot landing page."

    is now fully funded. Thank you to those of you that contributed Pocketchange to make this possible! I am looking forward to seeing this goal implemented in Tokenly Pockets soon!

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  • eshriek

    @kylerk ...I want to copy and past something into the digital signature section, but I can't because if I click away from it, it closes and I have to put my password in.

    You can open two separate chrome windows. Tokenly Pockets will stay open in the first as long as you don't click in that window.

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