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So I am not a big Reddit user, i think the notifications are terrible as i never know when someone responds, i think the site is unattractive and outdated, and i think in general its just not that well organized. But there are things about Reddit that I do love: everyone uses it, great information once you find it, and open discussions (with a mixture of trolls which are sometimes fun to read).

However things are beginning to look bad over at reddit. For those who have not been following, here are some big things that have been going on:

Early June - Reddits Interim CEO Ellen Pao in early June began shutting down subreeddits she believed to be offensive. This was a move to create a more friendly non hostle environment for reddit users, but has the negative backlash of infringing on the free speech and open discussions reddit was been known for
July 1st - A Jesse Jackson AMA went terribly south recently. After this happened, the main organizer for AMAs Victoria Taylor has been released without public notice and know one seems to know why or if its related to the Jesse Jackson AMA. http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/02/reddit-revolt-flares-again-as-ama-moderator-sacked-the-day-after-a-disastrous-jesse-jackson-qa/ (the AMA subreddit is currently down so no link available)

*July 3rd - Many in the Reddit community loved Victoria as she was the key person in organizing and setting up AMAs. The subreddit communities often do not know how to get in touch with higher profile figures in their respective communities. Starting friday, many subreddit moderators have begun to turn the subreddits into private mod so no one can view them in protest of the recent business moves from Reddit.

Today - folks are beginning to look at Reddit alternatives such as https://voat.co/ and a petition has began online to have Ellen Pao removed from her position as CEO of reddit. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102808806 Since Voat has had a spike in traffic, the site can be working a little slow right now, but there isnt currently any form of censorship. When first going to Voat it says:

"Hi, it looks like you're new. Welcome to Voat!

Voat is a censorship-free community platform based in Switzerland where content is submitted, organized, moderated and voted on (ranked) by the users.

Users can earn a percentage of our ad-revenue share for the content they submit."

Is anyone else turned off by Reddit right now and will we look for a new front page of the internet? Just google search reddit and you will find tons of information about this subject.

Posted on July 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM

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Yup, we are witnessing the natural cycle of the internet :) Social media site / community gets super big, reigns supreme for a period of time until it begins losing the values that made it popular to begin with and starts to destroy itself from the inside, until a valid competitor emerges to take over. We saw it with the transition from Myspace to Facebook, and we saw it with the exodus from Digg over to Reddit like 5 or 6 years ago, probably some others which I'm not thinking of right now as well. Seems like it is already starting to happen to Reddit, but I guess the big question now is who will end up taking its place? A lot of people have been suggesting that voat.co site (basically same ideas as reddit), but their servers have been totally crushed for weeks now, I still haven't been able to get on there once.

Its also really interesting that as soon as a reddit competitor came out that people started to flock to (Voat), pretty quickly paypal and friends shut down their donations and are trying to cut them off completely. Now they accept bitcoin only. I think we are going to see more things like that, any website with user generated content that is not already heavily established and doesn't hardcore censor anything related to Operation Choke Point is going to be forced in to using Bitcoin in order to stay in business.

Posted on July 4, 2015 at 9:33 AM
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@cryptonaut Yup, we are witnessing the natural cycle of the internet :) Social media site / community gets super big, reigns supreme for a period of time until it begins losing the values that made it popular to begin with and starts to destroy itself from the inside, until a valid competitor emerges to take over. We saw it with the transition from Myspace to Facebook, and we saw it with the exodus from Digg over to Reddit like 5 or 6 years ago, probably some others which I'm not thinking of right now as well. Seems like it is already starting to happen to Reddit, but I guess the big question now is who will end up taking its place? A lot of people have been suggesting that voat.co site (basically same ideas as reddit), but their servers have been totally crushed for weeks now, I still haven't been able to get on there once.

Its also really interesting that as soon as a reddit competitor came out that people started to flock to (Voat), pretty quickly paypal and friends shut down their donations and are trying to cut them off completely. Now they accept bitcoin only. I think we are going to see more things like that, any website with user generated content that is not already heavily established and doesn't hardcore censor anything related to Operation Choke Point is going to be forced in to using Bitcoin in order to stay in business.

Oh wow! So paypal shut down services to voat? Am i to assume that is because of Reddit, or is it because of voats content?

Posted on July 4, 2015 at 9:40 AM
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@pooktwo Oh wow! So paypal shut down services to voat? Am i to assume that is because of Reddit, or is it because of voats content?

I don't really know the exact whole story, but supposedly one of the mods at /r/SRS (shit-reddit-says, basically same thing as Buttcoin but for all of reddit...) went over to Voat and started posting child porn on some random small "subverse" (same thing as a subreddit), and then immediately reported it to Paypal, who then proceeded to shut down Voats accounts. Pretty messed up. Even though the admins would definitely have removed it ASAP (and have already I'd imagine), the fact that anyone posted that stuff on there to begin with is apparently enough for paypal to just be like "Nope.." and cut off any ties. Pretty disgusting tactic to attack a website, but an effective one I guess.

Heres an article I found on it: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/paypal-cuts-off-reddit-clone-voat-over-obscenity

Posted on July 4, 2015 at 9:58 AM
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