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  • Shatteredzen

    Forging seems like a fantastic way to address mining, I'm very impressed overall with NXT in concept but I'm getting hung up on one thing specifically that keeps me from taking it seriously. What is up with your guys wallet software? I just don't see how you can expect to reach any type of large adoption without an easier to install and use wallet software. Wouldn't a user friendly GUI be better for adoption? Bitcoin has a steep learning curve, doing anything to make it harder to adopt your currency seems illogical to me.

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  • joefox

    Shatteredzen said: Forging seems like a fantastic way to address mining, I'm very impressed overall with NXT in concept but I'm getting hung up on one thing specifically that keeps me from taking it seriously. What is up with your guys wallet software? I just don't see how you can expect to reach any type of large adoption without an easier to install and use wallet software. Wouldn't a user friendly GUI be better for adoption? Bitcoin has a steep learning curve, doing anything to make it harder to adopt your currency seems illogical to me.

    Which wallet software are you using?  There are seven different clients available, and I absolutely agree that the "default" client (NRS) is terrible.  However, it was always intended to be temporary. In fact, it will be completely removed soon, when better clients mature.
    Nxt development is not centralized: not in the core, and absolutely not in the clients.  BCNext created a very simple "reference" client, and left the design and development of full-featured clients to the community.  Several developers have created software, and several of the clients are VERY good I suspect you may not have been made aware of them.
    You can find all of the clients at http://nxtclients.org/.  Most of them are completely open-source.
    My current favorite is the "web-based" one, which is planned to be included in the software distribution once it is finished.  It will run locally, as part of your node, and will allow client-side transaction signing, so that your account's private key is never exposed to the network.  It is open-source. You can try it out here:  http://nxtra.org/nxt-client
    If you prefer standalone software, I also really like Offspring, which is affiliated with DGEX (one of the Nxt exchanges).  It, too, is open-source.  You can download it at http://offspring.dgex.com/ ... and one of it's big selling points is that it supports the optional use of a "wallet.dat"-type file, just like Bitcoin-style wallets do.
    Additional clients are still in development, as well.  What we have right now is a wide range of options, all being actively developed by diffierent individuals and teams.  They share ideas amongst each other, and they all benefit from competition.  Ultimately, you'll be able to choose the best client that works for you.
    Bitcoin has been around for more than five years; Nxt will be 5 months old on April 25, 2014.  It's young and, unlike 99% of other alts, it's a completely new blockchain implementation, written in all-new code, from the ground up.  IMHO it's far too early to expect perfection.

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  • joefox

    JimVB said: I got some nxt just to play around with the decentralized DNS system (like namecoin's .bit) - are there any clients that allow registering nxt's versoin of a domain.
    I've read up on it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323909  but haven't found any clients allowing me to test out the implementation. Do you know of any? 
    I'm also curious to see how the non-transferability of dns entries makes cybersquatting impractical.

    What you're referring to is the Nxt alias system, which allows you to associate an alias with any string of text.  There are a broad range of uses for this, and the DNS-type-system is just one.  Some people just use it to translate their Nxt account number to a username (for example, "joefox" points to one of my account numbers).
    If you assign an alias to a domain name or IP address, there are tools that can interpret the alias and redirect you do the right web site.  One such place is http://www.mynxt.info/fwd/; nxtra.org has also created free Firefox and Chrome browser extensions.
    To CREATE an alias, you can use the "most basic" method, described in the wiki.  Several of the clients available at http://nxtclients.org/ also support the registration of aliases -- wesley's webclient, Nxs, and Nxt Solaris all do, for sure.
    One of the community debates over aliases is how best to use them, since Nxt allows any string of text to be stored: aliases, domain names, phone numbers, addresses, etc.  The commonly-held belief right now is that people should store URIs in their aliases (see here for examples).  
    Aliases are currently UNIQUE, but this is being debated.
    Finally, new alias functionality is forthcoming, including the ability to transfer aliases from one account to another (which is related to the "squatting" problem you mentioned).  The community is currently debating this as well, and you can peek at all of these debates in the forums at https://nxtforum.org/alias-system/

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  • Shatteredzen

    joefox said:

    Shatteredzen said: Forging seems like a fantastic way to address mining, I'm very impressed overall with NXT in concept but I'm getting hung up on one thing specifically that keeps me from taking it seriously. What is up with your guys wallet software? I just don't see how you can expect to reach any type of large adoption without an easier to install and use wallet software. Wouldn't a user friendly GUI be better for adoption? Bitcoin has a steep learning curve, doing anything to make it harder to adopt your currency seems illogical to me.

    Which wallet software are you using?  There are seven different clients available, and I absolutely agree that the "default" client (NRS) is terrible.  However, it was always intended to be temporary. In fact, it will be completely removed soon, when better clients mature.
    Nxt development is not centralized: not in the core, and absolutely not in the clients.  BCNext created a very simple "reference" client, and left the design and development of full-featured clients to the community.  Several developers have created software, and several of the clients are VERY good I suspect you may not have been made aware of them.
    You can find all of the clients at http://nxtclients.org/.  Most of them are completely open-source.
    My current favorite is the "web-based" one, which is planned to be included in the software distribution once it is finished.  It will run locally, as part of your node, and will allow client-side transaction signing, so that your account's private key is never exposed to the network.  It is open-source. You can try it out here:  http://nxtra.org/nxt-client
    If you prefer standalone software, I also really like Offspring, which is affiliated with DGEX (one of the Nxt exchanges).  It, too, is open-source.  You can download it at http://offspring.dgex.com/ ... and one of it's big selling points is that it supports the optional use of a "wallet.dat"-type file, just like Bitcoin-style wallets do.
    Additional clients are still in development, as well.  What we have right now is a wide range of options, all being actively developed by diffierent individuals and teams.  They share ideas amongst each other, and they all benefit from competition.  Ultimately, you'll be able to choose the best client that works for you.
    Bitcoin has been around for more than five years; Nxt will be 5 months old on April 25, 2014.  It's young and, unlike 99% of other alts, it's a completely new blockchain implementation, written in all-new code, from the ground up.  IMHO it's far too early to expect perfection.

    This is a big help, I look forward to trying both of these out this weekend. Thank you for the informative response :)

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  • puck2

    Shatteredzen said: What is up with your guys wallet software? I just don't see how you can expect to reach any type of large adoption without an easier to install and use wallet software. Wouldn't a user friendly GUI be better for adoption? Bitcoin has a steep learning curve, doing anything to make it harder to adopt your currency seems illogical to me.

    I've been using the Offspring wallet and find it much easier to use... I did play around with the old NXT wallet and sort of agree with you...

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  • erreip

    @JoeFox Just found this post and it was what I was looking for! Thanks for sharing.

    Any plans or knowledge of an online/browser wallet/client?

    Thanks

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  • joefox

    @erreip @JoeFox Just found this post and it was what I was looking for! Thanks for sharing.

    Any plans or knowledge of an online/browser wallet/client?

    Thanks

    There's a terrific online wallet available at https://wallet.mynxt.info -- all signing, etc. is done on the client side, using JavaScript, and you can even download an encrypted wallet file for offline storage. The feature set isn't quite as robust as the full local client, yet, but it's getting closer with every passing week.

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  • erreip

    @joefox

    @erreip @JoeFox Just found this post and it was what I was looking for! Thanks for sharing.

    Any plans or knowledge of an online/browser wallet/client?

    Thanks

    There's a terrific online wallet available at https://wallet.mynxt.info -- all signing, etc. is done on the client side, using JavaScript, and you can even download an encrypted wallet file for offline storage. The feature set isn't quite as robust as the full local client, yet, but it's getting closer with every passing week.

    Thanks @JoeFox, for the prompt response. I will look into that.

    Cheers.

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