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  • Phoenix

    @junseth Lol, Adam was being accused of censorship and working to discredit me and Chris. In response, he locked my thread and gave me a liar token. I think that pretty much proves my point. :)

    That said, I am fairly certain that Chris's responses in the podcast do not stand up to the high standard that he and I have set for ourselves, and thus, must be given a Liar token.

    Just to be sure if I understand you correctly: You say here, that it was intended to undercut the usual standard of your show to get a liar-token for @brighton36?

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  • junseth

    No. I'm saying that Chris clearly needs a liar token.

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  • Phoenix

    @junseth No. I'm saying that Chris clearly needs a liar token.

    Yes, that's something you and me totally agree.

    But you also said:

    • "That said, I am fairly certain that Chris's responses in the podcast do not stand up to the high standard that he and I have set for ourselves (...)"

    I can't say anything about the quality of other episodes. But I hope for your show that you are right with that. It's also revealing when it comes to the question if all the claims and accusations on Factom and @PaulSnow are true.

    So we agree, @Adam should give Chris the liar-token, and maybe that would solve some problems. And maybe your next show will be better then.

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  • junseth

    Yes @Adam, we are all in agreement. Chris needs a liar token.

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  • foodtaster

    Calling anyone who disagrees with you a sockpuppet is not very cordial. Furthermore, you seem awfully involved for a third party observer. Must have a lot of free time on your hands. Maybe you are projecting?

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  • adam

    It seems like answering the questions in an episode just caused more confusion, here are the questions again so you can respond clearly, point by point.

    @Adam, @brighton36, @junseth

    Here are 6 simple questions:

    1) You cite Factom's talking about developing solutions for Land Titles for countries, and assert we were discussing the Honduras project, even though we do not mention Honduras. What exactly is the ethical problem with discussing use cases that a startup is working to address?

    2) Provide one statement about land titles and/or the Honduras project made by Factom that was a lie. An actual quote please.

    3) You claim we withheld information about Epigraph's role in the Honduras project in order to mislead investors. Were they not given credit in the very first announcement?

    4) We used Koinify to run the token sale, and third parties to assess the development milestones that we must reach to unlock the funds raised by the token sale. Why do you neglect details about the Factom token sale that were designed to avoid the risk of people buying tokens for a protocol that was not delivered?

    5) Factom has delivered the protocol, which is now running. There are 10,000+ anchors in the Bitcoin blockchain. Isn't an operational protocol some indication of performance for those supporting Factom?

    6) The funds raised by Factom have been fairly modest. But we do have a team of developers, and we do our work in Github. Do you have any reason to believe that the funds raised by Factom are not being used to develop the project as it has been defined by our White Paper, the Consensus Paper, and the Factom Data Structure Details document?

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  • brighton36

    Adam Levine, you're an idiot. Now give me my Liar tag.

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  • brighton36

    Adam Levine, you're an idiot. Now give me my Liar tag.

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  • Phoenix

    @foodtaster Calling anyone who disagrees with you a sockpuppet is not very cordial. Furthermore, you seem awfully involved for a third party observer. Must have a lot of free time on your hands. Maybe you are projecting?

    I don't care about "cordial". Take a look at your last posts, ask yourself what was your intention to write:

    • "Glad to hear that at least two members of your Factom team, Chris and Joshua are bringing attention to this issue."

    ...and why you constantly had to speak about a "koan" after I asked you some questions and without showing up again after I said that you are a sockpuppet.

    People often believe it's easy to handle a sockpuppet-account which is true if it's not important. If it's important it's not that easy to handle the pressure and to find a way of supporting the real person and showing enough distance at the same time. To give the impression you would believe that Chris and Joshua are members of the Factom team... that was a very impulsive overreaction. To talk about "koans" were also overreactions.

    Overreactions are very often a sign that somebody would like to leave a situation, but without knowhing how. But after I told you that you are a sockpuppet... what was your reaction? You left. And who showed up again? Right!

    So, if you ask me if I'm still sure that you are a sockpuppet-account. Yep.

    Who am I? Still a normal Investor. No conspiracy to find here, still no reason for you to feel important/special because of me.

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  • adam

    Chris, why can't you answer the questions?

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