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  • mdw

    @mdw It's different. It might even offer anonymity that is truly reliable. If so, it'll be the only one.

    I assumed you wanted to learn about them, just like @Alchemix assumed you were interested in investing in them. What is your interest anyway?

    @wildjo

    @mdw It's different. It might even offer anonymity that is truly reliable. If so, it'll be the only one.

    I assumed you wanted to learn about them, just like @Alchemix assumed you were interested in investing in them. What is your interest anyway?

    You are correct about my interest. I appreciate your dumbing it down for me. Not technologically savvy. But, the summary was understandable. Thanks.

    Unfortunately the math for zerocoin is tough, and I don't understand it. Maybe @therealtwig can explain it better, he's good at that. I do understand what's wrong with other schemes though. For example Coinjoin variants, unlike zero-knowledge proofs, will always be susceptible to Sybil attacks. Even if you use a fancy network of trusted master nodes and make it really, really hard.

    Ring signatures is the other scheme people seem to like. But it seems to me like the old game with 3 cups and the ball is under one of them. Maybe you can't prove I did something, but how anonymous can you be among a crowd of 3?

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  • page

    There's a youtube show that goes over this topic called Dark News -

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPj3KCksGbSZ1lqnjbdhxfP-iV70BGCtx

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  • Febo

    @alchemix Just remember the vast majority (99%+) of Alt coins are essentially worthless.

    Not the one with filling some niche Bitcoin will never be able to provide. Bitcoin will never ever become anonime. Anon coin that will get furthest will get quite a share among cryptos. Since lots of rich people love anonymity.

    I believe one of cryptonote coins will take this share and Monero is currently ahead. But since cryptonote coins are just a babies, still in early alpha you cant really say.

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  • fernando

    @febo

    @alchemix Just remember the vast majority (99%+) of Alt coins are essentially worthless.

    Not the one with filling some niche Bitcoin will never be able to provide. Bitcoin will never ever become anonime. Anon coin that will get furthest will get quite a share among cryptos. Since lots of rich people love anonymity.

    I believe one of cryptonote coins will take this share and Monero is currently ahead. But since cryptonote coins are just a babies, still in early alpha you cant really say.

    Not only rich people like anonymity. Bitcoin's public ledger is great for many things, but it doesn't bring privacy. It is true that with some practices the risks can be reduced a lot, but things like Coinbase banning accounts because they were sending funds to gambling sites make me think that it is better to use more private coins for many things.

    My bet is with Darkcoin because it is based in well known concepts and forked from Bitcoin (easier to use current infrastructure), but I'm a member of the team and obviously biased :)

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    @fernando

    @febo

    @alchemix Just remember the vast majority (99%+) of Alt coins are essentially worthless.

    Not the one with filling some niche Bitcoin will never be able to provide. Bitcoin will never ever become anonime. Anon coin that will get furthest will get quite a share among cryptos. Since lots of rich people love anonymity.

    I believe one of cryptonote coins will take this share and Monero is currently ahead. But since cryptonote coins are just a babies, still in early alpha you cant really say.

    Not only rich people like anonymity. Bitcoin's public ledger is great for many things, but it doesn't bring privacy. It is true that with some practices the risks can be reduced a lot, but things like Coinbase banning accounts because they were sending funds to gambling sites make me think that it is better to use more private coins for many things.

    My bet is with Darkcoin because it is based in well known concepts and forked from Bitcoin (easier to use current infrastructure), but I'm a member of the team and obviously biased :)

    Darcoin have right now huge advantage since is fork of bitcoin. As i said before, Cryptonote coins are all little babies and bet on them is more risky but with risk beside lose can also come profit.

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  • fernando

    @febo

    @fernando

    @febo

    @alchemix Just remember the vast majority (99%+) of Alt coins are essentially worthless.

    Not the one with filling some niche Bitcoin will never be able to provide. Bitcoin will never ever become anonime. Anon coin that will get furthest will get quite a share among cryptos. Since lots of rich people love anonymity.

    I believe one of cryptonote coins will take this share and Monero is currently ahead. But since cryptonote coins are just a babies, still in early alpha you cant really say.

    Not only rich people like anonymity. Bitcoin's public ledger is great for many things, but it doesn't bring privacy. It is true that with some practices the risks can be reduced a lot, but things like Coinbase banning accounts because they were sending funds to gambling sites make me think that it is better to use more private coins for many things.

    My bet is with Darkcoin because it is based in well known concepts and forked from Bitcoin (easier to use current infrastructure), but I'm a member of the team and obviously biased :)

    Darcoin have right now huge advantage since is fork of bitcoin. As i said before, Cryptonote coins are all little babies and bet on them is more risky but with risk beside lose can also come profit. Absolutely, my bet is somewhere else, but there is merit in a few CN coins.

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  • Myshadow

    @wildjo Can anyone list the currently leading altcoin projects whose core principle revolves around anonymity?

    Anything built on the Bitshares platform has TITAN http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/TITAN

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  • Omnibus

    @mdw

    Is zerocoin still being worked on? Last I heard the project itself was a great idea and was being worked on, but either didn't look like it was going anywhere or was abandoned altogether. This looks like it's the latest news and that was posted a month ago. The content of Peter Todd's comment is kinda disheartening as well that they will be trying to profit from establishing a business model around the coin.

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  • RDX
    1. NeosCoin [NEOS]
    2. DarkCoin [DRK]
    3. ByteCoin [BCN]
    4. Monero [XMR]

    NEOS is brand new, but promising. They shut down their official thread on BCT due to excessive abuse from trolls, but their own forum is now active. Check out their own anonymity feature called Arbitrush.

    http://neoscoin.com/ & http://forum.neoscoin.com/

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  • Cut

    u can find it on coin swap

    there is many of coin ,u can choose it

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