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  • silvergoldandbitcoin

    Everything I read about Ethereum is either singing praise, or bashing it as a 'scam' or otherwise bad idea.

    It's a pretty even split how much I read about it. Some good some bad. I wouldn't invest in it just based on poor market sentiment alone, but I also think that very few people will actually use it.

    So for me, there's multiple reasons not to go for it, and only one reason to actually invest. That reason being the hope that its value will increase substantially as time goes on.

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  • shopnhowler

    @silvergoldandbitcoin Everything I read about Ethereum is either singing praise, or bashing it as a 'scam' or otherwise bad idea.

    It's a pretty even split how much I read about it. Some good some bad. I wouldn't invest in it just based on poor market sentiment alone, but I also think that very few people will actually use it.

    So for me, there's multiple reasons not to go for it, and only one reason to actually invest. That reason being the hope that its value will increase substantially as time goes on.

    True, I haven't rationalized a reason to preorder any either. But there's another reason which would be to use any decentralized apps that come out. Whether it's a cheaper price, or not, is uncertain though.

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  • shopnhowler

    @irnhnve

    It has been mined since the inception of the genesis block where miners did not directly pay for those first bitcoins they received as rewards. Satoshi did not say "This is bitcoin and they are worth $5 a piece, come and get some". They did not have much perceived value to the miners because they never bought them and gained value only when the mining difficulty because harder and there was actual demand for them. At that point, people were willing to pay for them which incrementally increased the price to where it is today.

    Ethereum's price is being set and you cannot get Ether without paying what they say the Ether is worth. When facebook had it's IPO, the price per share was set at a certain level and then when trading opened, it plummeted because the market did not think their shares were worth what they had set the IPO price at.

    Bitcoin's market value started at 0 and then price discovery in the market raised it to the value people were willing to pay. Ethereum is starting much higher and if the market determines it is not worth what was initially asked it will plummet as well. The major difference here is that Ethereum is priced against bitcoin for now which could go way up. It's impossible to say what will happen, Im just trying to think it out in comparison to other crypto IPO's and thinking realistically when we will be using Ethereum for it's intended purpose and not as a speculative vehicle.

    Good points, it's easy to forget Facebook's post-IPO stock price (not sarcastic, it was that immemorable).

    But I think it's important not to get caught up in the concept of 'market'. A group of buyers B is a 'market', even if it's a subset of a larger group A. To me, as long as they buy, they're part of the Ethereum/Bitcoin stakeholder set. True, Facebook's stock price plummeted, but so has Bitcoin's price because the subsets of buyers at any time relative to stakeholders are constantly changing.

    *edit: clarity

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  • zak9494

    Do you guys think it worth 1 btc to get 2000 ether in exchange?

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  • Mike

    @zak9494 Do you guys think it worth 1 btc to get 2000 ether in exchange?

    I'm still debating this myself. I might throw even less at it, just to say that I did it. That way if it burns then the loss isn't that significant, and if it floats then I might still make something decent off of it or at least be able to make/use some contracts.

    My biggest issue is that it has received way too much attention and so this crowdsale will likely be overbought. When the client comes to issue, there may be no actual buyers left and thus I could enter the game cheaper as the less resilient of the bunch sell off.

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  • foolish_austrian

    @silvergoldandbitcoin Everything I read about Ethereum is either singing praise, or bashing it as a 'scam' or otherwise bad idea.

    This makes it very hard to evaluate... there are these diametrically opposed opinions. I'm very cautious, but I find it hard to see the large number of (supposedly) reputable people all being scammers.

    Just because something goes for presale doesn't mean it's a scam. I find very few detailed critiuqes of the technical aspects. I think it's possible they're being overly ambitious, but they may fail to deliver on their promise, but that would be failure to deliver, not a scam. The whole scam talk actually makes me more doubtful of those who are calling it a scam!

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  • nessence

    Looking at the ethersale as an investment isn't accurate, relative to the offering. Ether is a product rather than an investment or currency. What will affect the price of ether the most isn't it's value as a tradable asset like bitcoin, it will be based on the supply and demand of computing power provided by miners and required by contracts. Everything else is speculation. And, maybe that's why it's hard to speculate. Ether isn't a coin.

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  • Bitsking

    From my view i wouldn't treat ether as an investment so i wont purchase any ether. To this day i still haven't seen any practical implementation of ether ever since it was announced.

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  • salsa

    I hope so they will spend the Bitcoins for the mainstream education, so all cryptos will gain. However this is probably the worst ROI in the cryptos, if investors really think it is worth the risk... I wouldn't do that

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